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There are a very few occasions when conceit takes me more or less into ecstasy. One of those occured this evening when I was looking for BSG plot summaries and discovered that one of the BSG sites is called Big Dumb Object. This is a critical term I created back in 1981 or so - the consensus seems to be that no-one came up with it before me - to cover the phenomenon of sf novels which were set in a vast artefact which was at once setting and McGuffin, like the Ringworld or Rama.

And look, I find myself saying when people use the term in novels, or for websites, my baby is all growed up and walking in the worlds...

Date: 2006-02-12 01:28 am (UTC)
gloss: woman in front of birch tree looking to the right (goony)
From: [personal profile] gloss
Having just read all around ringworlds yesterday (Varley's stuff tempted me in a used bookstore), I am *all* over this term. Yes.

Also, it kind of applies to Firefly's Jayne.

Date: 2006-02-12 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abostick59.livejournal.com
There's a Wikipedia article about the expression. It doesn't credit you, however.

Date: 2006-02-12 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
How do we address that?

Date: 2006-02-12 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
I just edited the page. Whether it will stay edited is another matter - Roz, can you remember which article you used this term in?

Date: 2006-02-12 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Never mind, found the OED cite.

Date: 2006-02-12 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
That's interesting - after I posted that it auto-inserted a link from Roz's name to a page about the Midnight Rose anthologies, which is presumably the only entry that mentions her. Something needs to be done about this...

Date: 2006-02-12 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com
The article is called 'Science Fiction in the 1970s' and appeared in Foundation Number 22,

Date: 2006-02-12 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
So edited.

Date: 2006-02-12 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
Congrats!

[Have you seen Stableford's Historical Dictionary of fantasy? He's run my terms right the way through the book. I don't know whether to feel flattered or freaked.]

Date: 2006-02-12 10:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
I'm trying to popularize the use of Big Smart Objects (see also Matrioshka Brain, Computronium/Limits to Computation). Must remember to credit you with the original that it riffs off.

Date: 2006-02-12 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
Coolness:)

Date: 2006-02-12 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookzombie.livejournal.com
Didn't realise you were the coiner! I've been using the term for years, most recently in a review of Alistair Reynold's Pushing Ice for Vector.

It's such a usefull term!

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