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rozk ([personal profile] rozk) wrote2008-07-06 12:15 pm

Dumbass EU law proposed to cut off file sharers: ACT NOW!

WRITE TO YOUR MEP NOW!!!!!

The '3 strikes and you're out' plan to cut those accused of copyright file sharing off the net - note accused, not found to be guilty - has been sneaked into an EU telecoms bill after it was explicitly defeated earlier this year.

This bill would require all ISPs to monitor all traffic, would doubtless catch those sharing files legally in the net (eg. I frequently shift around large files full of data - how is the ISP to tell if these are legal or not?), and effectively brings collective punishment since you might be cut off as a result of the actions of someone else using your net connection (with or without permission).

The bill is also technically incompetent since the increased use of encrypted P2P and Tor will make it very difficult to even guess reliably at who's sending what to who.

It's not just me worried about this, see a write up on this proposal by a UK Law Professor as well as comments by LJ's own Independent Diplomat.

And these measures are due to be voted on in the European Parliament TOMORROW.

Write to your MEP now using eg. WriteToThem in the UK or use this tool to find out who your MEPs are if you're outside the UK.

gakked from [livejournal.com profile] purplecthulhu

I speak as someone who needs to download television shows for purposes that are mostly scholarly - writing some of the stuff I write would be impossible if I had to wait for UK terrestrial airing.

[identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
A note for anybody sending a message to MEPs: do not use the words "fair use"! This is a US legal concept and the related concept in the UK is "fair dealing". Referring to "fair use" will, sadly, convince anyone who knows a bit about IP that you are an ignorant anti-IP extremist who isn't worthy of being listened to.

[identity profile] legionseagle.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Fair Dealing is unlikely to apply to file sharing for most people ([livejournal.com profile] rozk has better arguments based on the concepts of "criticism or review" but these exceptions are narrowly drawn) : refer instead to the recommendations of the Gowers Review with regard to making copyright enforcement consistent with the digital age (http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/gowers_review_intellectual_property/gowersreview_index.cfm) and the permitted derogations set out in the EU Copyright Directive.

[identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks very much for jumping in here. Other people who by some remote possibility don't know, this person Knows What They're Talking About, more than I do by my peripheral knowledge of the subject.
Edited 2008-07-06 20:29 (UTC)

[identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, MEPs duly spammed through 'Write to Them'. My argument is not around the ethics of filesharing, which I think is a hiding to nothing with most politicians at the moment, but rather with the notion that terminating internet access is a pretty severe punishment that increases the likelihood of social exclusion and we shouldn't be doing it on the uncorroborated say-so of record companies.

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes that is the main angle I have been pushing. This dispute at this time is not about fair use/fair dealing and it would probably help not to mix that in.

The other major three planks for me are:

this is law making by stealth and misdirection , and

it wil involve a serious sentence delivered by private bodies without court or jury involved

it will also involve probably automatic disclosure of personal information by ISPs contrary to the ECHR rights of privacy and data protection rules.

[identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm also taking the line that it is the sort of thing that brings the European Parliament and EU into disrepute, being an almost textbook example of back-door unaccountable lawmaking. Make MEPs feel that something is being sneaked past them, and you might make them annoyed enough to start poking around with it.

Of course, the slight problem for me as a Londoner is that I have nine MEPs, one of whom - Syed Kamall - is sizeable responsible for this. I'm targetting those of the others who I think might be least sympathetic to this plan, especially regarding the privacy and DP issue.

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It probably doesn't hurt to write to Syed even though he won't change his vote - let him know his tactics are unpopular.

[identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed - it was on that basis that I wrote to all of them. In the past I've had useful dealings with several of them, especially Gene Lambert. Syed Kamall was not one of them but, in the same sense that Westminster MPs measure their constituents' opinions by number of letters, he might think twice if he gets enough complaints.

[identity profile] ankh156.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I've contacted all my ouest-france meps telling them I'm a musiician who passes around files of original stuff - all true. I've filled in the 'contact with citizens' form several times, it doesn't look too communicative - more like a defence. More useful is the meps who give a direct email address whom I sent direct. I'll be watching for the results of this vot tomorrow.

[identity profile] gauroth.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Written!

Thanks for the alert. After the Viacom vs Google/Youtube ruling last week, I'm getting very concerned about the threat to the Internet privacy of us ordinary users. It's 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance' all over again.

[identity profile] alexwatson.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)

Note for those in London: Mary Honeyball (Lab/PSE), on the IMRE committee which votes on Monday, is on the record in support of the motion tabled by MEPs in April which condemned the "3 strikes" plan. For full text see Explanations of votes on A6-0063/2008 (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=CRE&reference=20080410&secondRef=ITEM-012&language=EN&ring=A6-2008-0063#4-219).

I wrote to her anyway, emphasising that this is an incredibly disproportionate response which can be taken with no regard for due process, and mentioning briefly the privacy concerns and the complete absence of public support.

I'm going to wait and see how the vote goes tomorrow before writing to my other MEPs. I'll also write to Kamall and have a bit of a moan, but not tonight.