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rozk ([personal profile] rozk) wrote2008-11-20 01:40 pm

Toiletgate - The Saga Ends

After an extended series of exchanges with Pride, I received an e-mail today from Paul Birrell which provides the absolute assurances I have been asking for:

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As we have tried to state throughout - and I can only apologize if this has not been clear from our writings - Pride London does not support any position where an individual would be prevented from full and open access to facilities in accordance with their gender identity. This has been Pride London's policy since inception, even prior to the amended legislation. I can state quite categorically that Pride London will be not only be complying with the relevant legislation, but will continue to, as it has tried to do in the past, ensure that it progresses rights further than simply the legislative agenda that the government has seen to pass.

You may not believe me, but I was appalled at the very thought of anyone being refused access to the toilets on the basis of their gender identity at what I regard as the one day of the year when we should all be able to walk freely through central London and live our lives without harassment. That's regardless of any legislation. I've been campaigning for LGBT rights for most of my adult life which is why this is as much a personal issue for me, Pride London being a company I run, as opposed to simply a corporate affairs matter as I am sure previous 'Pride', and I use that word advisedly, organizations such as Mardi Gras would have seen it.

There will be no discrimination, either unlawful or indeed in those instances where the law does not as yet extend through the sphere of LGBT rights. We are an LGBT rights organization and we are ensuring that this policy is clear to all contractors as well as organizations that work with us, as opposed to just those that work for us.'

I have accepted his apologies and assurances and plan no further action on the matter.

My thanks to Paul, Neil Young of the GLA and all the people who have given support in trying to ensure that the July incident never happens again.

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations!

MAIR

(Anonymous) 2008-11-20 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well done Roz. Keep a copy of the letter You might need it later on if there is any more trouble . Congratulations again.

[identity profile] paulathomas.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well done Roz. What we need now is for the security firm and Capita to do the same.

tolietgate 2

[identity profile] x-mass.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
of course their is still toiletgate 2!

where stonewall point blanked refused to let a disabled woman who walked with a stick into a building to go to the toilet, despite her being in desperate need, because she was protesting them. The senior police officer on site even went and asked them to help but they point blank refused.
she was then forced to rush as fast as she was able to a MacDonald's to go to the loo. She then had to spend a week off college recovering from the damage she suffered

this isn't exactly the same as tolietgate 1 but s'onewall have a duty of care towards disabled people under the DDA and oh look they can shaft trans people at the same time - two birds one stone!

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And no one told us about this before because?...

Obviously there is a serious issue about this and I need the details pronto.

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] paulathomas.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely - this could have seriously legal implications for S'onewall.

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] x-mass.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
on the day because [livejournal.com profile] the_borderer needed to get to a toilet pronto

after - 2 reasons
a. because I was waiting for the bounce effect from the stonewall demo to ease off. I wanted people to feel like they had achieved stuff
b. because I was ill and i was looking after [livejournal.com profile] the_borderer trying to help her get back to college

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] x-mass.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I actually said all the major details in the post. She was point blank refused according to the head of the police on site. She was then suggested that she goto the macdonalds up the road which was "5 minutes up the road" presumably at a dead run. it was some way beyond the pub we walked.

I should have brought it up at the pub - I forgot, I was trying to say hello and network and then say good bye and get her home. I actually didn't realise how bad it had been until the next day when she was confined to bed. I should have gone with her I guess

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
We need to get really detailed information about this if we are going to pursue it. Contact me through e-mail and we will put as much as we can together on the phone - it may be a bit late to prove what went down tho'.

Re: tolietgate 2

[identity profile] x-mass.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
it would be better to wait for [livejournal.com profile] the_borderer to get back after 1pm
but you should be able to see my phone numbers now 9i must have forgotten)
http://x-mass.livejournal.com/78297.html?mode=reply

[identity profile] pirates-daily.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well done. And good for him too, in the end.
ext_2541: (bff)

[identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been following your posts on this and these events have been appalling and frustrating and now more optimistic.

This, as well as other recent events make me consider joining our Gay and Lesbian Bisexual club now that I am going to university.

*waves flag!*

[identity profile] chaos-rose.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You did it!

hate to quibble but..

(Anonymous) 2008-11-20 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
why did it take so long ? This has been hanging out there for months.

PB of Pride could have said this at any time, even before the Met Police climbdown. So, even tho' it's pretty much a comprehensive statement, I have to wonder why they have been so unforthcoming and taken so long such that, when we discussed it a fortnight ago, you seemed resigned to having to resort to legal redress.

Re: hate to quibble but..

[identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
At this point, and this applies to the question of the past conduct of the sub-contractors as well, I am just glad that it is over. I have various theories as to why things played out as they did, and as to which buttons I had to press - but the important thing is that we got the undertakings we were looking for.

[identity profile] natalie-456.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
finally! well done Roz... although its disturbing how long it took

[identity profile] clanwilliam.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm so pleased. I hope Pride continue with this attitude.

[identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
About bloody time too! Well done Roz :o)

[identity profile] flamedancer.livejournal.com 2008-11-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
A great result from your efforts Roz. Congrats.