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A minority Labour Government supported by the LibDems, the Nationalists, the SDLP and the Green would be inherently unstable. I would guess that those Labour people opposed to electoral reform could be herded - like cats - by the Whips but I am not sure even of that.

A LibLab coalition supported by the other progressive parties ( and OK there are questions about the SNP there, but let it pass) would have some major weaknesses on other issues. The LibDems would have to accept collective Cabinet responsibility on things to which they are fundamentally opposed like Trident or make more non-negotiable demands than electoral reform which could be seen as the tail wagging the dog. The LibDems would also be seen as appointing the Labour leader and thus the PM - my reading of the Labour Party's leadership election procedures is that while they go through the process, the Deputy Leader, who is also the Deputy Prime Minister, acts as caretaker. Everyone is talking about a Milliband, but there would be a very good case for the Queen summoning Harriet Harman to the Palace.

At least both Labour and the LibDems are committed to electoral reform. My reading is that the requirement that things taken to the Lords be manifesto pledges just about works here, though of course a formal coalition has no manifesto so that requirement is looser anyway - I will take instruction on this.

Since the Conservatives have set their faces like flint against PR and alternative voting, I don't see how they can double back on themselves and give the LibDems anything they would want. And I don't see what the LibDems could guarantee the Tories - the problems with formal coalition with collective cabinet responsibility would be even greater and I can't see Nick Clegg selling the deal to his Parliamentary colleagues let alone the party at large. Indeed, I know various LibDem people on Twitter and here who have said that they would resign from the party over it.

My guess - and I have a long record of being wrong - is that Cameron will try and soldier on for six months in the hope of an upturn in the economy and no worsening of the recession and we will get another first-past-the-post election in November. In the meantime, he will vandalize everything in the name of austerity and try and monster all parliamentary opposition to this as meddling and electioneering.

We need a proper Progressive Alliance for the Autumn election. Prepare for hard bargaining and tough times.

SNP

Date: 2010-05-07 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindasemple.livejournal.com
Hi Roz. I presume the SNP comment is to do with the not voting on devolved issues that would make their support for a coalition difficult. Central to a SNP deal would be an end to Trident, further fiscal devolution in preparation for independence, devolution of immigration policy (SNP policy is to end detention of children and allow people who are awaiting decisions to work) and increased public sector allocation to support the Scottish model of growth through a recession led by investment in e.g. social housing. Probably more progressive than the Lib Dems... and they wouldn't ask for cabinet seats

Re: SNP

Date: 2010-05-07 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
The SNP are going to want a Tory government though. That would be the best possible christmas present ever for Alex Salmond.

Date: 2010-05-07 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coraline73.livejournal.com
I suspect the Tories will offer some kind of fudge on electoral reform & the LibDems may take it if they think it'll help them as a first step to proper PR. But I'm not enthusiastic about it, so in a way I hope you're right.

Date: 2010-05-07 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com
Starting to look as if Clegg and Ashdown are asking the Tories for an offer, but they would still have to sell whatever deal Cameron offers to a complex party arrangement that I hope my LibDem friends can explain to me. And Cameron's future is then hostage to the possibility that Clegg comes back and says, 'Sorry Dave - can't sell it to them'.

Date: 2010-05-07 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Essentially it would give Clegg a loaded gun to hold at the back of the head of a Tory government for the duration of their term...

Date: 2010-05-07 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juggzy.livejournal.com
Hope you don't mind me friending you. Old Labour voting Lib Dem out of necessity, here.

Date: 2010-05-07 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozk.livejournal.com
Not at all; welcome aboard.

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